rasmus, amars, vab, others: my extension to the thought is: a person who releases free software for the ethics alone cannot appreciate the movement as much a person who, having satisfied their own obstacles with software, resolves to freely pass their creation on to the world. and there is resolution in doing this. everything i have learned, i have learned from someone else. a book, a class, a discussion-- perhaps i have made a few original discoveries. once my software is given to the world, i expect no reward, as i have received so much already. the creature who codes for the ethics alone is dependant on the ethics as a reward. if the movement appears to falter, then they loose their inspiration. so i find it encouraging to think about those software authors who released free software before the Movement. why did they do it? maybe they were just nice people. and i'm sure some people question my certification of bytesplit as Journeyer. i suppose i don't have much of a defense, except that i tend to certify high. if someone is keeping up their involvement on this site, then i feel like encouraging them. and if i certify them as Journeyer, then there's a chance they might respect that. and actually start acting like a Journeyer. Journeyers, Ho!