I'm impressed how a simple remark evolved into quite a thread with some very eloquent statements. Having participated in quite a number of similar discussions, I'm still puzzled about what can be discussed and what is by definition impossible to argue about.
My (non-provable) observation has been that it's always matter which is at the origin of everything else and motion (evolution) is part of its nature.. Of course, to give some substance to this claim I'd need to give a precise definition of the term 'matter', which I won't. Only one thing: it's much more than just particles, or fields, or whatever is the object of interest to, say, physicists. Matter in this philosophical context is anything which exists outside of my reflecting mind, i.e. especially the conditions of my life, i.e. whatever makes me think now the thought I'm typing here...
This is nothing I can really argue about, it just fits my experience. On the other hand, there are quite a number of things I can derive from that position, which then are coherent and defensable. All these categories as beauty, aesthetics, value, moral, etc. are purely anthropomorphic. As lilo illustrates, these categories can't be applied outside our activity horizon. Well, they actually are, but I think that doesn't make sense. In particular, the notion of 'sense' has meaning only in the context of 'consciousness' and conscious choice, since there we give sense by chosing one option over another.
To call something 'logical' merely states that our (logical) thinking is well able to represent that thing, it doesn't make reality more real because we agree. Nature doesn't care about logic. We do.
What I find even more interesting in this context is the
question why we think and feel what we think and how this
can
be derived from our culture, the way we have been educated,
the way we engage into any kind of humane activity, etc.
But lo!, here we have our famous catch 22 ! That our
thinking is a function of our social condition was an
assumption. What if people don't follow me this far ? How
can this give a little substance to a meaningful discussion
?