I'm now annoyed at letting myself get dragged into another stupid argument which spilled over from desktop-devel-list@gnome.org to foundation-list@gnome.org, because of a highly opinionated and excessively verbose someone who seems to enjoy stirring things up within the GNOME community.

I remember this guy first turned up on #gnome a few years ago using the nick 'oGALAXYo'. He starting out by slagging off GNOME to all the developers and started listing all the problems he was having with it on the channel. He was advised to use appropriate support channels, such as bugzilla and the project mailing lists, but had decided to himself that they were all a waste of time and that bothering people on #gnome was the best way to get things done. I ended up /ignoring him, and he hasn't caused me much bother since. Until this dropped into my inbox. In my opinion, this guy brings shit-stirring to a whole level. Do a google search for 'oGALAXYo' and 'gnome' and just see how he winds people up.

I agree with Alan Cox (although he misunderstood my position) - at the end of the day Ali is a developer, and Mark was a bit 'short' with Ali. But I can sympathise with Mark was trying to better the signal/noise ratio on a busy list he is responsible for, and was simply pointing out a better place for it. Although not condonable, I think it was understandable that he lost his temper, because (IMHO) Ali is someone who seems to enjoy making a public nuisance of himself.

So if you're reading, Ali, I'd still love to know why was it so important that you made people realise that you were annoyed by Mark? What has this achieved in relation to your intentions wrt to the HIG? And, as Glynn says, why should personality conflict be a problem for the foundation to deal with? Even if it is in the charter, do you feel righteous to have wasted all these people's time because of your little playground squabble with Mark? Actually, I'd rather not hear it. End of story.