10 Jun 2003 rasjani   » (Journeyer)

Rant about Ximian and XD2 Installer
    First of all, im ximian fanboy, without a doupt. I've been running evolution since the first public release and i have been using it as my only email client. Also, i have been using Ximian desktop as it first came up till the date redhat 8.0 came out which wasnt supported os at the time. And i loved it too. Same thing about red-carpet. All i can say. YEY! XIMIAN!

    And you can belive i was extatic when XD2 was released few days ago. Finally! And for my current distro redhat 9! I was wiser from the previous installation which took ages because of the heavy load on ximians network but so i waited a day to ease it off and i started the installation process few hours ago..

    Now, in this point lets review how ximian wants to make money from home users: They are selling red-carpet express access to get "faster downloads and installs". All this sounds good but how does it work in real life ?

    Now, each of you who have started the ximian installer knows that in the way to actually installation, user can choose out of many mirrors. I chose Tampere Univercity since its the closest because i live in finland. Also because i *know* it delivers fast since i use it as my red-carpet mirror.

    But what the heck, downloading is taking really really long time. I'll go and try to pull of the whole ximian tree from my mirror with ftp, i get around 2-3MB/s which is something i was actually expecting. So what is the problem ? I fire tcpdump and see where the data actually comes in..

      Voil√£!

    The datastream is coming still from red-carpet.ximian.com (aka axon.ximian.com) but why ? I chose my mirror, twice, before the installation download started and in both cases it pointed to Tampere Univercity.

    But why? Of i remember. Ximian is selling red-carpet express access for "faster installations and upgrades". Now, Is ximian's business model to cell bandwidth and limit it from voluntery mirror providers like Tampere University (note that there where many other univs in the mirror list) ? I dont think so, not that it wasn't possible politically but i bet it wouldnt be possible technically either..

    So, Lets think it a bit more. Slow download, even from "selected mirror" leads to frustration. Advertisement just before installation about faster downloads and install. Why "Different" installation program, why not just use the ximian installer red-carpet ?

    1+1=3 or.. is it..

    UPDATE:

    Just to be fair, i found out after a bit of digging what the problem was. My Redhat 9 wasnt up2date with all current redhat rpms and XD2 installer tried to pull them off ximian mirror (without a warning i might add). But allthou i ran up2date and updated all packages.. This "slow download" problem still was present. I got pass this by downloading xd2 iso image off from BitTorrent.

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