16 Nov 2000 mazeone   » (Journeyer)

iain
I'm sorry if the people in #e were mean to you, as there is a chance that I was one of those people. The only excuse we have is that there is a constant barrage of really stupid people coming in the channel, bugging us with the same stupid questions over and over. So when someone who isn't stupid asks the same question, there is a chance that they will take the brunt of the frustration caused by the other people. Luckily, it appears that a good number of the people who used to bug us have moved on to using sawfish, so people in #e have a bit more patience than they used to.

efm
The plan all along was for efm to become part of the next version of enlightenment. Raster and Mandrake built what was EFM as a test of a lot of their ideas on what should go into a file manager. Now they are going back and building core libraries, including a lot of the ideas that were sucessful in what was EFM. They don't want to get a lot of support questions about EFM (which has never been actually released), so they moved it off the CVS server. #e also isn't interested in supporting it, much to the dismay of a lot of people who have seen the nice screenshots, which is why usually people in #e disavow all knowledge...

I have sometimes wondered if #e is "not nice", compared to other large irc channels...I know that the other large channels I've seen (#perl, #gnome) tend to be as brutal as #e, if not worse.

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