From: Chad
<chadmill@valdosta.peachnet.edu>
Date: Sun, 22 Oct 1995 22:51:03 -0400 (EDT)
To: "Mark R. Lindsey"
<mrlindse@valdosta.peachnet.edu>
Subject: bash
Mark,
Hey--I set up bash as my shell (well--kinda. This is in
my .login:
"bash -i ; logout" . Pretty lame,
huh?).
mentions that PHP seems like toy coding; I've had the same thought. In fact, at ApacheCon a couple of years ago, it appeared to me that the PHP programmers were the kids, and the Java programmers were the adults.
Oh, and speaking of interpreted code -- isn't it fair to say that all code on your machine is interpreted? Granted -- it's not interpreted by a software interpretor -- but what particular elegance is provided by that? It speaks more to the weakness of hardware engineers than to the strength of computer scientists.
(I laughed after I wrote that.)
jcv and I have experienced significant pain as PHP applications grow. Sure, you can code in anything if the you're willing to make and follow all of your own rules (parameter passing, memory management, return conventions, data representations, mutual exclusion, etc.). We abandoned PHP for Java.
I guess that's all there is
I'm realizing finally that Unix seems to be the reigning King of Operating Systems that is actually used widely.
I remember having thoughts as a kid, that real computer folks couldn't possible use MS-DOS, which was the only thing available at the time. It was fairly obvious that the popular-culture myth of the mainframe wasn't running DOS.
I got into Unix when I accidently got a SunOS account on the local college's minicomputer, and I knew right off that Unix was Good Stuff. I played with it throughout my teenage years. I remember thinking that I wanted to be knowledgable about Unix by the time that I went to school there.
But I kinda always thought that there was something better; after all, do supercomputers run Unix? Is egrep or vi involved in the launching of missiles?
I'm in an Operating Systems course now, and even though there are lots of research ideas and halves of a real OS here and there, Unix is still the hottest thing going. And, in fact, the SGI Origin supercomputer in the department runs a Unix.