5 Apr 2002
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wide fame around here. Some sort of script
. I'm proud to say that
I knew him when he was first introduced to a real user
Date: Sun, 22 Oct 1995 22:51:03 -0400 (EDT)
To: "Mark R. Lindsey"
Hey--I set up bash as my shell (well--kinda. This is in
"bash -i ; logout" . Pretty lame,
mentions that PHP seems like toy coding; I've had the
same thought. In fact, at
ApacheCon a couple
of years ago, it appeared to me that the PHP programmers
were the kids, and the Java programmers were the adults.
Oh, and speaking of interpreted code -- isn't it fair
to say that all code on your machine is
interpreted? Granted -- it's not interpreted by
a software interpretor -- but what particular
elegance is provided by that? It speaks more to the
weakness of hardware engineers than to the strength
of computer scientists.
(I laughed after I wrote that.)
jcv and I have experienced
significant pain as PHP applications grow. Sure,
you can code in anything if the you're willing to make
and follow all of your own rules (parameter passing,
memory management, return conventions, data
representations, mutual exclusion, etc.). We abandoned
PHP for Java.
I guess that's all there is
I'm realizing finally that Unix seems to be the reigning
King of Operating Systems that is actually used
I remember having thoughts as a kid, that real
computer folks couldn't possible use MS-DOS, which was
the only thing available at the time. It was fairly
obvious that the popular-culture myth of the
mainframe wasn't running DOS.
I got into Unix when I accidently got a SunOS
on the local
college's minicomputer, and I knew right off that
Unix was Good Stuff. I played with it throughout my
teenage years. I remember thinking that I wanted to
be knowledgable about Unix by the time that I went to
But I kinda always thought that there was something
after all, do supercomputers run Unix? Is egrep
or vi involved in the launching of missiles?
I'm in an
Operating Systems course now, and even though there
are lots of research ideas and halves of a real OS here
and there, Unix is still the hottest thing going. And,
in fact, the SGI Origin supercomputer in the
department runs a Unix.