29 Mar 2005 kov   » (Journeyer)

I noticed I forgot to mention Matthew Garrett on my last post. Well, I like him and think he would be a good DPL. His proposals are good but I think he is wrong in the way to fix communication and to achieve consensus. I think we need stronger solutions for the problem.

As andrelop mentioned decko is working on packaging update-{notifier,manager}. We had a problem, though: update-manager only works with python2.4. Discussing this in #gnome-debian we came to the conclusion the best thing to do would be porting it so it would use python2.3, which is what pygtk is ready to support on Debian for now. I then patched it and it works.

Now the problem is Debian's python-apt lacks wrappers for DepCache stuff on libapt-pkg, which Michael Vogt developed for ubuntu and used on update-notifier. I talked to Matt Zimmerman and he said he'd upload a new python-apt version including this to experimental soon for us to use it, though. Thanks guys!

One thing I was thinking today was: what happened to all Progeny cool ideas? I watched their presentations on picax and componentized linux but never really heard of them again. Ubuntu has been able to echo much more 'till now, but I would really love to see the ideas guys from Progeny brought to Debconf4 being tried out. Especially, I'm sad we still could not integrate the python configlets a bit more on Debian. Now that we're working on bringin some ubuntu tools and even yast for Debian, maybe the Debian Desktop project should do some effort on bringing the configlets together for etch? =)

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