Hmmm... I can't post anything to the discussion on trust metrics 'cos I'm an observer... Its probably an accurate description; I run a web site geared more to free hardware designs; I've never released any free software, though I will do eventually. And I very much doubt if any of the people here know me to have any opinion either way. From my point of view, it'd be nice to have a grade midway between observer and apprentice - 'wannabe apprentice', so I could post occasionally. Would that totally destroy the trust system? Would it become another slashdot? Maybe observers could be allowed a limited number of posts, with posting rights withdrawn on first use of the word grits^H^H^H^H