No, tk, you see someone who originally came to advogato.org to respond to someone else's childish games of slander. in the midst of protecting one's own name (that would be me), some other childish fellows ("tk" is the first example i can think of) saw it fit to try and polish his own tarnished name by adding his own fuel to the fire. i won't argue with you any further on this, tk, i expect you to react similarly.