Counterpoint: When you enjoy a delicious meal at a restaurant, should you consider yourself entitled to the recipe? Maybe that should be up to the chef...
Counterpoint: When you enjoy a delicious meal at a restaurant, should you consider yourself entitled to the recipe? Maybe that should be up to the chef...
How many words do I know? - one word, repeated again and again
The fox glides across a meadow; birds still; a fieldmouse stops in its tracks
The endless predation of things: I hunt my own shadow in these dark hills
Tu Fu's at my side: we write poems: float them away on the wind - Allan Cooper
What I found is that it's generous for everybody. If the goal is to encourage activity within the community, i.e. if mod_virgule "feeds" on this activity, then it is in mod_virgule's interest to stroke a person with a nice inflated cert. That's fine - as long as we take it for what it is and keep it real.
I will give another example besides myself, because sometimes ya gotta stir the sh*te. I see bytesplit has recieved about a dozen apprentice certs and two journeyer certs - one of which is a self-certification; the other of which is by someone bytesplit certified as a master. I assume the self-certification doesn't count. (The other person, whytheluckystiff, is certified by many as a journeyer. Although I don't know him, that looks about right.) So as far as I can tell, based solely on whythelucystiff's vote, bytesplit gained journeyer status.
I am not going to come down on bytesplit. He just came to my attention because he makes the headlines a lot. In fact, I'm tempted to cert him as an apprentice. Outwardly, he does appear to have an interest in becoming a good programmer, and also when he comments on an article, it is usually a positive contribution. His diary paints a different picture though. bytesplit, I don't know whether this is a game to you or whether it comes from genuine interest in open source; either way, if you present the same image in your diary as you present elsewhere, you'll be more successful.
One more example, although I don't remember who it was: last week I saw a diary entry that said "I'm no longer an active participant in the open source community, and have not been in 18 months. Please re-think your ratings with this in mind." Perhaps there should be a way to decline a certification vote which you think you haven't earned?
freshmeat has restored the comment that I mentioned, in which I talked about how I hoped to extend this software on Unix. I didn't ask them to restore it. Perhaps its temporary disappearance was due to a technical glitch rather than an overzealous editor. Anyway freshmeat, you are helping me reach my audience, and you're doing it for free. Thanks.
<rant>
Freshmeat continues to operate with all the diplomatic tact
and unilateral benevolence of the New York Soup Nazi (ref.
Seinfield). They did list NTXShape there, but they edited
the description down to only mention the parts that run on
Unix "today". So I posted a comment saying "uh, we
also have API bindings for Visual Basic and a graphical
interface for ArcView - and with volunteer support I'd like
to make cross-platform bindings for Python and/or SWIG; and
a cross-platform graphical interface". But, instead of
helping me enlist people so I could make this software
better for Unix users, they said "Visual Basic is not
Unix. ArcView is not Unix. No freshmeat for you!"
</rant>
salmoni: thanks for the vote of confidence. I shouldn't knock freshmeat; I'm glad they exist. They'll help Unix users find NTXShape, even if their editors won't help me find volunteers to help improve it.
Goal Drift: I'm not sure where I saw that last night, maybe raph linked it. My goal is for NTXShape to be known by, and useful to, those who need it. Making it better is a secondary goal. I should keep that in mind.
At first I thought that, in blocking my comments, Freshmeat's editors had lost sight of their goals. Upon thinking about it some more, and reading their "about" page, I realize their purpose is to catalogue software so Unix users can find it. That is the service they provide. By bringing more eyeballs to the software, they might encourage or even help the author to improve it further but that's a side-effect, not a goal. (Since FreshMeat and SourceForge are both owned by OSDN, perhaps they need this clear division of purpose so they don't steal one another's thunder.)
Every once in awhile I happen upon some mention of one of the first open source contributions that I made, an XInput driver and notes to get a Calcomp DrawingSlate tablet working with XFree86 3.x. That was years ago; more recent versions of XFree86 include built-in support for Calcomp tablets courtesy of Martin Kroeker. Yet, funny though it may seem, my old hack still gets top ranking in Google when you search for "calcomp xinput".
(Speaking of time warps, as I write this, it's 2:00am June 15. I forgot that, when I post to Advogato, I'm in California where it's still yesterday.)
Well I gots my immediate gratification, and my freshmeat page.
feji: Yeah Freshmeat calls it "Unix" but they'll list Linux-only projects. The Solaris makefile wasn't what was lacking; they just needed to see a link to the source code so they'd know the Unix support (meaning Linux/Unix support) wasn't vapour.
Well it looks like Freshmeat is going to come through for me after all. They just couldn't find my Unix source code (it was in CVS, but was not in a tarball). I've made some minor changes to my web site to make the Unix stuff more visible, so now it should go through easily.
Speaking of the web site: http ://ntxshape.sourceforge.net/opensource.html might be an interesting read. It talks about the different open source licenses, and how NTXShape ended up with MPL.
Well, I have my project NTXShape running on SourceForge. Freshmeat won't take it though, saying they only list Unix projects. So, I rolled up my sleeves and got it working on Linux - this was on my short-term plan anyway and most of the groundwork was done - and then re-submitted to freshmeat. Again they say I must support Unix. So last night I got it to compile and run on Solaris/Sparc, and compared the results to the Win32 and Linux versions. They all work the same. Still they say "no freshmeat for you."
The Linux and Sparc support were on my to-do list, so I'm glad I found an excuse to do that, but now I want the immediate gratification!
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