12 Nov 2001
(updated 13 Nov 2001 at 01:42 UTC) »
I leiu of not being able to post directly to the SourceForge
drifting article here is my post in diary format:
Firstly. I agree that many people have
about SF's ability to keep up the level of service and
about how SF will act given no small amount of pressure to
stay alive. People do stupid things under pressure.
That said I fear that trying to make a new SF,
this case of a distrubited SF, is a silly effort. SF is a
larger than life tool for developers, but one that I
honestly think, is like eating forbiddin fruit. It will
haunt you to have something so wonderful & then have
taken away. It is so large that it's demands on funds
are draining & face it there is no
self-maintaining revenue. As hard as VA 'whatever' tries
to keep it alive it will have to succumb to the financial
pressure it exerts.
A distributed SF has the same effect. It
resources. On a small scale, but still...? To a small
guy, hosting it will have smaller financial impact, but
aren't those truely just the same? Someone has to
maintain it all! Otherwise it will die very quickly.
A valient effort! Yes. But I think it is
try to build another in its image (or better image in this
I do not criticize without having a helping
either. I do think that efforts should begin to strip
down the level of service that are a bare minimum to
keeping projects highly effective.! Are these basic tools
not available to individual developers? I think
Developer efforts should again rise from the ashes of the
developer's level! This is surely more sustainable
hundred distributed machines with a hundred distributed
admins with multiplied problems! Yikes!
Also, will Savannah allow you or allow you to
to develop your non-free, but opensource programs on the
platform? I don't know either. But I suspect that many
would or should have the same concerns with that project.
I do wonder if people will not start offering
specialized services for a fee. People _do_ offer to do
so to SF. I have personally seen the offers over some of
the SF forums. One such service could be CVS? Another
might offer mailing lists. etc. The point is that the
individual developers/projects must maintain that point of
control over their projects by NOT being dependant on
another service. Savannah or otherwise. The world is
governed by certain 'laws' and one is that in a
financially based economy where services cost money to
provide, equally the service will have financial demands
on those who use it. So, there will always be a cost.
Upfront (service provider), or backend (SF closing,
exerting financial pressure like 'ads' or closing certain
services, or creating propriety add-ons. Savannah is not
immune. So neither are projects who use them. Keep
control by using development tools of your own &
distribute your project's info.